Category: Theory

How soon is Fall?

Posted by - July 31, 09

The other night Seinime comes onto the melative microblog mentioning he’s going to be linking to melative for all the coming Autumn series. Naturally I was like “Shit!” because I hadn’t entered any of that info.1

Well, after a couple hours of searching for resources and whatnot, most of the info was present. Seimine’s early Fall forecast is out.

I once wrote an article on the essence of a Season Preview, with some focus on melative. Today I took a few hours and javascripted a dynamic info-fetcher based on the melative API; mind you, it was in raw javascript, had I been using jQuery it’d likely have been quicker.

It can be found on this page. While the javascript source is here.

Before that, Hold up

Isn’t is like this early to be doing Autumn seasonal stuffs. Here in FL, we’re still on the lookout for afternoon thunderstorms, swimming through the humidity, and wondering why god has forsaken this penisula just when this season will end. Shit, I’m still in summer; and I’ve only sampled two series -_- So anyway…

I’ll get my Autumn seasonal forecast… eventually. /smirk

About the Script

First, it’s very rough.

If anyone cares to copy-pasta and modify it, go for it. It’s probably very easy to mod into a hard-page format (where the info is dynamically loaded into the page, but the page appears solid; no hover-popups).

Second, it uses dynamic <script> injection with a callback from the melative api to MelaMeta.callback, in which the JSON response is passed. The call to the api (/api/media.meta.json) is simply given a parameter such as anime=Kobato, but also a callback parameter and and a cache parameter. Callback is self-explanatory. Cache enables the JSON to be cached by the browser (the default atm is for 30 minutes… the data is not likely to change that often).

Finally, it is activated by an <a> tag with the rel attribute set to “melative” and href linked to a valid melative page (doesn’t really matter what is used). We can link music, events, manga, etc.

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The Honor of 10

Posted by - May 15, 09

usagijen managed a great mixture of closing thoughts and defense of her giving Darker than Black a 10 [out of 10]. I added my own response, but ghostlightning pointed to one of coburn’s December posts which I recall, but never managed to respond to a second time. There were good points made:

Jen:

My 10 is greater than your 10

This is a duality in truth.

moritheil:

A rating is always subjective.

I suppose concur, or rather, no matter how objective one may deem their rating, we must still take it as a subjective stance :( Nothing wrong here, the Narutos of the world will still get their 1’s and 10’s… it keeps spinning /whoosh so why do ratings matter at all on a system-wide scope? I have arguments, but not the point of this entry.

ghostlightning:

People are subjective to be sure, and the ratings we give on MAL I think serve as icebreakers in opening discussions more than anything.

This goes beyond the way (the rating system 10/10 or relative, matters not). Discussions are about thoughts, possibly streams of them. This goes hand in hand that a rating list only goes so far when trying to inspect the individual. An organized history of thoughts are a nice reference point in doing so.

Senna:

I know people who won’t even give their favorite series a 10/10 because “it’s not perfect;” I think that’s silly

I concur, though just as interesting is someone’s highest-ranked title. It’s just not very interesting when it shares the same position with 20 other works.

Finally, coburn’s followups:

I agree that relative-tiered levelling is more accurate in dealing with the broad range of shows out there – especially at the lower ends of the scale. Especially in that some people will be stricter than others depending on their personal aims in rating shows.

Ah yes, notice this statement on strictness will apply to any rating system. People who rate differently, should be allowed (and possibly encouraged) to use different scales. coburn does, in fact, understand the system.

Still the lack of a magic symbolic 10/10 doesn’t quite click with my actual experience. My favourites really do mean that much more to me. Maybe I’d have to include a couple of empty theoretical tiers to segregate them from the crowd.

Ah yes, the magic of 100%. I’ve come to the realization, that this is only possibly in relative ratings if the user keeps a 10-level system, but again, possibly more interesting is what appears at the top, regardless of level. Y/N? A top 10 list is rather wicked, but something tells me people wouldn’t mind seeing top 20 or top 100 as well. I feel a correlation with ratings is in order.

Secondly, empty null/void-tiers, it has been pondered. This is not an issue, the current system has a switch which removes empty tiers, disabling is quite simple. The issue is exploiting such a thing, but extreme ratings should usually be thrown out anyway. As compensation, the current calculation algorithm is non-linear, meaning higher tiers have a greater weight/position than lower tiers (the mathematical significance of a rating becomes less important on the way down).

TheBigN:

I do get annoyed when people strongly force comparisons between two anime shows, as if the shows were specifically made to fight against each other, when that’s not the case.

Back to coburn:

TheBigN: I reckon the advantage of doing things out of 10, as opposed to something like Ryan suggests, is that the extent to which shows are in combat with one another is reduced.

It is relative because the items are ranked relative to each other… this is Sparta, jk.

There are two ways to go about this. 1) Whether we like it or not, a 10-point system is relative, but abstracted from the direct comparison between the experiences/works. If someone gives two titles a 5 and a 7, there is inference of comparison. 2) Ratings are quite 1-dimensional, which is good reason to include annotation when rating. This preferably should not involve comparison between works, because the rating already expresses the outcome.

The fundamental nature of rating is comparison. How an individual rates, whether through abstracted grading or direct comparison likely will differ. The dimension of the ratings will likely differ as well; the overall experience vs storytelling+production, etc. What is important to notice in all of this is that both fixed and relative rating systems can be used for any dimension or grading style. If we substitute the word “unbounded” or “dynamic” for “relative,” the hard difference becomes the ability of a user to create their own rating system, or not.

With that said, I realized this rating system requires a different mindset about how we numerically categorize our media experiences, but once the consensus releases the ingrained concept of 10/10 ratings and realizes the backwards compatibility of relative ratings, both RRS and fixed-point systems will reach a more meaningful realization.

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Influenced Path of Experience

Posted by - May 11, 09

So I was playing around in Google Reader with the recently established stream feed on melative, when I saw some comments flowing in on usagi’s lively Cross Game post. ghostlightning mentioned my name, and it grabbed my attention. He touched on the relation of behavior and decisions which occur, leading to a newly found anime endeavor; given, it could/should be generalized for just about every type of media.

Rather than deeply ponder the thoughts, I’ll just start by having a representation of my own order of influence when it comes to taking on a series I may have never given time.

First, the mentioned sources:

  • a - Direct/RL Recommendation
  • b - [Professional] Internet Review
  • c - Blogger Review
  • d - Blogger Season Preview/Hype/Pimp
  • e - Blogger twitter (why not anyone else?)
  • f - Blogger Direct Recommendation
  • g - Comment/Reader Recommendations
  • h - Forum Discussion

Perhaps the most interesting thing about this list is that bloggers play a big part. I think it is an incomplete list with regard to every single viewer out there and every way of recommending.

Here’s probably how I would rank:

  1. a+f - I know a very small set of non-blogger anime watchers; I like bloggers.
  2. c - I like bloggers.
  3. g - If I get them, it happens.
  4. d+e - Quite passive on previews; just like seeing the pre-take. I casually skim tweets unless I’m there at the time, and it’s basically impossible to see impressions on one series among those I follow (without searching PLEASE!).
  5. h+b - Forums are messy, pro. anime reviews seem out-of-touch; I do like user reviews. (I have regard for some awesome old AnimeNFO user reviews)

So there are two sides of the situation, when we take a recommendation/suggestion and when we leave it, which is a bit interesting if we want to formulate an algorithm which maps this non-self influence of the experience. The benefit also has two sides answering the questions: 1) how does the viewer’s decisions on experience relate to recommendations? 2) what source has the greatest sway over listeners?

Developing a media-centric web-framework has it’s perks, and I may begin writing a solution in the near future; sooner if it seems immediately useful.

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Branding via Lists

Posted by - May 1, 09

This is entirely in response to ghostlightning, who has fully indulged me with an adjusted concept of “relative ratings” and the realization on melative. Don’t care for melative? This post does extend the brand of listing, melative is just an example.

Saaa~.. melative’s relative ratings (which can be translated as a list) can fit this branding perhaps even more thoroughly than simple favorites or 10/10 ratings on MAL, because an individual’s “brand” does not end with anime or manga…

What the hell is relative rating?

It’s an ordered list of items from least to greatest, with respect to some aspect of each item. The default melative list is in regard to overall quality or objective solidarity. Another way to look at it is a dynamic point-rating system, in which the depth of rating is user-adjustable. Further, items can share levels.

Given my own mixtures:

http://melative.com/RyanA/r/anime
http://melative.com/RyanA/r/music
(these are not absolute or complete, but simply adjustable)

Mathematically, one can see what will come from combining these things, as ghostlightning put it, a brand. Though, I believe a brand needs something more.

Understanding the Brand

What occurs with these lists is not of importance between individuals who know precisely what most of the items are, but when we have an individual quite unfamiliar with the items of a list, what shall they understand of this brand? Particularly, what sort of brand-understanding occurs between someone who has no clue about anime, but a decent clue about film? What occurs when that anime-branding is accompanied by a film-branding?

In this circumstance, I believe that a given brand transcendence will be applicable between individuals thriving in difference media. This is the bone of the sword. This is the soul of melative; each media can be related and we can begin to mesh with lovers of various mediums, thus exposing, sharing, and expanding each and every perspective.

Comprehensive Brand

Lists are fabulously compact, but this branding is quite flat and impersonal. So we are given a list of someone’s top whatever, great, but there is more to a list in how it became that way; the journey in which a list was created, the true brand.

I am infering here that we need something more than a list, we need a history. Natsuneko makes a solid point here, although we were tangential on the topic of tags and tagging. Reading the individuals experience along the way, whether it be full-blown blog posts, MAL posts, Reflections, disorganized twitterings, or the melative stream is what will give us a richer nature of one’s brand. It is a profile composed of expression rather than composition…

Personally, I was attracted to the blogosphere for this vary reason, reading what others had to say in non-formal, luscious flow-type expression and being able to go back to it in an organized fashion (tags, aggregators, categories, etc).

end melative

ghostlightning’s post inspires me to standardize a second type of relative rating, or rather distinguish two optional views to further stimulate this notion of list brand: the subjective relations and the objective relations. Currently, it is just one list (with a statistical backend for calculating the goods), and though arbitrary instances of lists have been pondered, they’ve been avoided because there would be no measurable value across many lists catering to an arbitrary set of aspects. It is good to continue pondering…

Coincidentally, melative caters to the more comprehensive branding via expression in the stream. One may notice that the application does not care about how many episodes of series Q a user has seen, it is arbitrary and useless. What the system can and does show is the state of an experience and expressions made along the way via reflections or contextual micro-posts (via announce). If a user has updated or reflected on a given episode, what use is it in assessing they have 6 more episodes left to watch, or have watched 17 already. Anyone viewing this user’s stream updates or reflections on the title will understand far more about the individual than by simply knowing they have seen 17 of 24 episodes and gave it a 7.

Inverse Harem

Posted by - March 24, 09

matsurika

So I was recently catching up on Maria†Holic, and took some time for episode 11 last night. The thing I came away with is this concept of inverse harem. As we already know the definition of harem (thank you Akamatsu) and that of reverse harem (thank you shoujo), Father Kanae gives us a good entry into the inverse harem; being enamored with multiple parties.

Simple.

Pliability of a Rating History

Posted by - March 22, 09

votes

I want to express this as briefly and neatly as possible. I’ve written before about what differentiates a [fixed] point-based rating system from relative ratings (my rantish is nothing new by now), but I revisited my AniDB account the other day, glanced at my votes, and realized how completely fixed they really were.

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Beat Your Ratings

Posted by - December 9, 08

Perhaps it isn’t a secret, I’ve a thing for wondering why individuals can sincerely trust finite point-scale ratings (10 balloons, 3 hearts, 5 clouds).

Hikari

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