Comments on: Artists and Non

By: Omonomono » Tech Thoughts, Part 2

Omonomono » Tech Thoughts, Part 2 — Thu, 06 Aug 2009 18:33:27 +0000

[...] is a continuation post on that fanart citation circlejerk, but a tangent that began here (scroll [...]

By: Ryan A

Ryan A — Thu, 06 Aug 2009 17:00:04 +0000

@lelangir I wouldn’t say it’s harder with images, but it’s more difficult to be precise, especially on a grand scale. Face recognition works based on Eigen pairs (basically a big matrix), and what happens is that each pair aligns to give a certain value. If the values match within a certain range, the image is considered similar enough.

Searching images with text might be tougher, since even now, research is in full-force for object detection, but it’s all based on training these AI algorithms. The most efficient method would definitely be Eigen vector-value matching, but that goes with the assumptions 1) the image is identified in the databased somewhere 2) you have an image you wish to compare (I suppose even sketches would work, tracing definitely). After the matching is done, the result may still be partial or hazy, but close.

That would be some massive database, since I’m pretty sure there is more artwork in the world than there are musical pieces… but that’s arguable.

By: lelangir

lelangir — Thu, 06 Aug 2009 00:57:18 +0000

what JP was saying about searching images as if they were text, you can do that with music, in certain tech-focused libraries. “Music” is misleading - it’s just syntax. I suppose it’s harder with images.

on another point - with music, as far as I’ve seen, if people come upon a song and the artist is unknown, there’s almost an instantaneous blitz to find out who composed it. This is similar to the whole SAUCE?!!??! meme, though with SAUCE it’s more about finding the source anime, by which further doujin is found. It doesn’t really work that way with music, since there’s not nearly as much doujin music.

also, is this a new blog theme? I dig it!

By: Ryan A

Ryan A — Wed, 05 Aug 2009 22:04:05 +0000

ROFL nekosasu. I’m not sure why this even came up (what made whoever post on it). Whatever it was, I think everyone was just doing things naturally, based on their level of awareness. If someone is getting images from google image search, it’s likely that there’s not going to be proper info for mentions.

I don’t think anyone intends to harm or cause misfortune by not crediting art [or not knowing to do so].

By: nekosasu

nekosasu — Wed, 05 Aug 2009 21:48:59 +0000

What I didn’t like about this was that it all seemed like a sudden epiphany that blew up like a ragebomb9001, and that suddenly everyone was concerned. This is by far not a new problem, after all, but yeah, eventually it was just the same old drama train going on. In the end I was fairly amused by seeing the usual culprits raging and trolling about.

I secretly hoped that there would be a couple of influential retards who would call for a blogosphere-wide witch hunt to name and shame those who didn’t follow this mere unspoken rule - as it were- which would create a massive shitstorm. But I guess that kind of drama will occur some other time. Bad for my schadenfreude.